Old Mini Monday 16 – Fantasy 06

Old Mini Monday 16 – Fantasy 06

Background

While visiting my brother, he rounded up all his old painted minis and let me borrow the box of them to share on the blog.

 

Miniatures

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From Left to Right: Sneak Thief with Dagger 03-075, Denetale Young Wandering Wizard 03-096 , Kitiara (Dragonlance Villains boxed set 10-504)

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Manufacturer

Ral Partha
Characters/Minis

I found two versions of Kitiara online, interesting enough. Both are similar. People have commented before about the lack of female representation in the mini hobby. I was struck by it again when looking through Ral Partha’s back catalog for armored women. Seems to be so little.  

That’s a big “dagger” on that Sneak Thief, one of those weird naming of minis. Looks like he could be a Thief, but would also make a decent Ranger. Not sure if Wandering Wizard is holding a wand or a torch, but could probably be used as a ‘noble person’ with the clothing style. Once again, used in lots of D&D and our own homebrew dungeon crawler games.

 

Tangent – Hobby Noise

Funny how sometimes these tangents just bubble up. I had planned something else, and then Imperialrebelork made a comment that made me think about cheese. I mean, beer. Err, nachos? No! Music! Background noise!

A number of people seem to have something else going on while painting their little miniatures. I like to have some music going on. Usually something I’m really familiar with, so it is essentially background noise, that doesn’t interrupt me from painting. Being married, with a house and kids, there is enough interruptions as is.

My painting time is usually done when the little one is napping/sleeping, so I can’t just crank up the volume on some Nine Inch Nails. So volume tends to be kept to a minimum and most of the time the music is a bit on the softer side.

Miniature painting and gaming is a bit nostalgic for me, having grown up on different computer and boardgames and lots of Dungeons & Dragons (and other RPGs). So I also like to revisit old music while painting.

I like to think my music selection is a bit broad (not as varied as Alexis), but there isn’t a lot of rap, no reggae, not much folk, no real country, etc. in my music collection. Most of what I listen to, probably falls into the rock/alternative/pop/electronic category. What a big category! But that’s still just a subset of what people in the U.S. listen to, let alone internationally.

I find I can’t watch things while painting (TV or Movies), as I’ll get too sucked into it. Surprisingly I have managed to pull off a couple super quick hobby moments while the toddler was awake in the same room. I think I should now try my hand at juggling chainsaws, oranges, and bowling balls.

IRO (ImperialrebelorkguywithasuperlongnamethatweliketoshortentoIRO) had asked me what sorts of music I listen to, and I gave my typical long reply. Basically the music I listen to falls into the super-category I listed above. Some of the albums/bands I can recall listening to recently while painting are: Counting Crows – August & the Everything After, Tori Amos mix, Beastie Boys – Paul’s Boutique, 80s Heavy Metal mix, and various movie soundtracks. The Hackers soundtracks (yea, they released three or so albums of music based off the movie), being a particular all time fave. The movie itself? Laughably bad.

Do you like to have background noise going while hobbying?

Do you listen to music, watch movies, TV…?

Does it have to be something familiar? Do you have a favorite?

Is there anything you find to be too distracting while painting? The words “HONEYYYYYY!” and “DADDYYYY!” spring to mind for me. 😉

 

 

 

43 thoughts on “Old Mini Monday 16 – Fantasy 06

  1. I like different sounds at different times of the day. For music, a lot of 70’s and 80’s stuff, usually on Sirius radio. First Wave, Classic Rewind, Classic Vinyl, sometimes Margaritaville or The Joint. Other times sports, mainly Boston Bruins or Red Sox. Now Army football is on CBS so that too. Other times, Fox Business or Fox News. Let’s my wife watch The Food Network or the Bachelor/Bachelorette unaffected by my peanut gallery criticism.

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    1. Not sure why I’ve never been much into radio. I usually put on an album or make my own playlist of things. Being a techie, It’s also surprising that I never jumped on the Spotify, Pandora, bandwagon.

      I should put together a classic 80s Pop list sometime. Do you find Sirius radio to be quite a bit better music wise? One of the reasons I don’t usually listen to radio (or watch regular TV), is that I find the ads annoying. Also, with radio, I find it weird that they play the same songs over and over, when there is so much other stuff out there.

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  2. Love Monday’s minis and tangents! Funnily enough, I don’t bother with music while I’m painting minis these days and, being short-sighted, have never been able to watch TV at the same time. Music tends to be reserved for the drive to and from work or when I’m painting/decorating the house, in the latter case from my MP3 player via headphones!

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    1. Thanks man! So you paint in quietude? Have you watched the movie A Quiet Place?

      I think I’ve painted a few times with nothing else going on. I can certainly do it, but I think I’m at my best with some tunes going on.

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  3. Pretty cool retro miniatures. I seem to recall that Kitiara was a character in some of the Dragonlance books.

    I like to listen to music; a lot of it overlaps with the stuff mentioned in last week’s post comments (and I’m another Portishead lover). Currently I’ve been enjoying a long playlist of singer-songwriters in the Tori Amos vein. I sometimes listen to podcasts on whatever game I’m painting for but there is a very fine line between ‘too simplistic for my current knowledge of the game’ and ‘too advanced for me to understand’. Also, and more importantly, they annoy She Who Must Be Obeyed more than the music so I usually only put them on when I’m painting alone.

    Now that my kids are old enough and interested enough to paint with me we usually just use the time to chat a little. It’s really been a nice extra bit of family time that we can do together… the only downside is that it’s three times as expensive as getting miniatures just for me.

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    1. Thanks man!

      I hadn’t anticipated the cost of getting the little ones into the hobby, haha! I keep hoping I can get the toddler to a stage where she can paint beside me. Or any other craft sort of thing. I once managed to get her to play play-doh, while I trimmed and assembled some minis. I think it nearly lasted 20 minutes. How old are your kids? Did you start them young?

      Yea, Kitiara was from Dragonlance. I wasn’t into those books very much, but it seemed to be a setting they were trying really hard to push.

      Oh wow, another Tori Amos fan. I had a big crush on her in the 90s, followed her music for awhile, then got kind of bored with her, haha. I did see her live in concert. It was in a small concert hall, which was really cool. One of the better concerts I have ever been to. Unfortunately, we didn’t get back stage passes. I liked Portishead’s first two albums, but “Third” just didn’t do it for me. Great band, and one I wished I had seen live sometime.

      It’s interesting how living with others influences our behavior. If no one is in the house (rare occurrence, indeed!), I’ll crank up the tunes a bit, and play stuff that I wouldn’t play normally. At nights, I lean more towards the mellower music, since the toddler is sleeping (and now demands her door stay open*). *flash forward 9 years, and she will probably have her door closed all the time.

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      1. Didn’t everyone in the 90’s have a crush on Tori Amos? I’ve been listening to her again over the past few days since a live show of hers happened to be on the music TV channel when I turned off my crime docos, so I ended staying up until it finished.

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        1. Of my friends during the 90s, I think I was the only one who had a crush on her. I think we all had different tastes in girls. Guess in a sense, that should have made things a bit less competitive. But wasn’t always the case. 😉

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          1. Haha, I did see Tori Amos live once, a long time ago, and was highly impressed. I don’t generally know what the people I’m listening to actually look like (and indeed, why would I care? I’m only interested in their voices after all).

            My kids are 9 and 7. I used to let them play with some of my old miniatures from WH40K that I wasn’t using and they just pushed them around like little army figures. But after a while they realised that there is an actual game to go with these, and linked it to my periodically being out for a day of tournament-ing. About a year ago I asked if they wanted their own miniatures and we each got a starter set from GW. We haven’t actually played many games but the value of being able to paint together is worth the financial outlay. Needless to say they are both quite fickle about whether they want to paint with me or would rather play video games or whatever so I make a point of not insisting that they join me. I wouldn’t want it to be a chore for them (which actually harks back to another conversation we had a few weeks ago). Depending on what they want, I might eventually feature some of their completed miniatures on my blog.

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            1. If they are cute, it just adds to the siren song effect! 😉

              That sounds like a great way to get get the kids into the mix. Yea, pushing people will usually make them resent it. Our toddler keeps wanting to paint a real mini, but I can’t imagine the post-cleanup. I also am very reliant on my setup right now, just the right light, and all my tools, etc. But the floor is carpet…so no toddler painting in the near future there. Still, we’ll probably try something at some point. We’ve also tried boardgames with her. Kinda fun, but she gets bored part way and heads off to her toys. Or says “I want to play a new boardgame!”. Meaning, pack it all up, and entertain me with something new!

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  4. Like you there’s no way I could watch TV or a film and paint at the same time. I’ve only got one pair of eyes after all, despite worshipping chaos for all these years!

    Music though is great, metal (black/death for preference) or punk generally (I’m aware there are other genres of music out there but why settle for second best eh?). The other thing I’ve been getting into is watching the Warhammer TV twitch channel, I’d doesn’t distract my attention because I’m mostly just listening to them, but having some people talking about the hobby is a fine motivator I find.

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    1. What are some of the punk bands you listen to? I’ve tried punk a few times, but never found a band I really liked. Oh wait, I really like Green Day!

      (Just kidding, I don’t like Green Day. No offense to those who find Green Day to be the bee’s knees!)

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      1. Green Day are Oh-Kay!
        Like, they’re literally Okay. I’ve got a bunch of their albums from the days when I did a lot of torrenting, but never bought any (except for that Rock Band Spinoff and some additional songs). I can’t listen to anything too heavy while painting – too distracting. So my Ministry/Black Flag/Rollins/NIN/etc stuff isn’t for painting time.
        I’m a big fan of Blink-182, though. Not sure why, since I’m pretty sure I’m not (nor have ever been) a teenage girl, but it is what it is. And I can paint while listening to them, too!

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        1. Haha, Azazel’s inner teenage girl comes out! I have moments like that, and I’m like “Why do I like that?!”. Have you listened to any of NIN’s newer stuff? Some is a bit quieter. He’s mellowed a bit since The Downward Spiral/The Fragile. I really like his collaborations with Atticus. Ghosts I-IV, Social Network soundtrack, all very moody and pretty quiet stuff. I trance out to those at work, when I’m programming.

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          1. Went to reply on another of your posts and “comments are closed” – bah!
            I haven’t heard any of Trent’s newer stuff. I kind of tuned out after The Downward Spiral/Fragile when he took a bunch of years off to be a heroin addict. I just found out that Gorillaz have had a bunch of newer albums, and none of them (that I’ve listened to so far via YouTube) have done much for me at all so far…

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            1. I love NIN’s “With Teeth” album, a bit more polished than his other stuff, but it’s catchy, and well, I love it. Not sure if diehard NIN fans would turn up their noses though. Trent’s done a lot of soundtracks with Atticus Ross, and they are great. It started with Ghosts I-IV, which I think is just NIN, and not a soundtrack. Then there was soundtracks for Social Network, Girl With a Dragon Tattoo (American one), Gone Girl, Before the Flood, and Patriots Day. He also formed a band with his new wife as lead singer “How to Destroy Angels”. And NIN is back for some music now too, though the recent stuff I heard was not my fave.

              Comments closed? On my blog!? I’ll double check the settings, that would suck.

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  5. My first thought on seeing that Thief was the Crocodile Dundee bit “Look out! He’s got a knife!” “That’s not a knife. *This* is a knife!” Kitiara’s pose seems kind of awkward to me, but other than that, all three of those look pretty good for their era.

    I actually end up doing a lot of my painting relatively late at night, after my apartment complex’s quiet hours kick in, so I don’t have anything on. When I do, it’s just whatever I happen to be grooving on at the moment, not anything specific for painting.

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    1. Yea, I don’t recall her holding anything from the pic I found of her online. Hmm, I looked up the character….I thought maybe she was a spell caster of some sort and that’s why her left hand is cupped like that. Nope. I did like that she’s wearing some decent armor, but I guess that’s a rare find for female minis in this era. And here’s a pic of the character I found online:

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  6. There’s three broad categories of things that I listen to while painting:
    1) Podcasts (usually via YouTube)
    – Wrestling ones (Steve & Larson, Whatculture, Cultaholic, WrestleTalk, Dave Meltzer, Jim Cornette or other random ones like Busted Open Radio etc every so often.
    – Videogaming YouTube Videos that are effectively podcasts – Laymen Gaming, Yongyea, The Know, Jim Sterling, Outside XBox/Outside Xtra, occasionally Angry Joe.
    – Tabletop gaming ones – mostly Tabletop Minions (haa-bbeeee), though lately I’ve gotten into Kirinoth. Too many of the gaming ones and painting ones grate on my nerves for some reason, so feel lucky to have two worth listening to.
    There’s also some doco/comedy stuff I’ve listened to:
    I found a ton of Jon Ronson radio programmes, and tore through those in like three weeks. Really good stuff.
    I’ve got a bunch of Jon Richardson BBC Podcasts as well, which I’ve listened to many hours of but not yet finished.

    2) Music. My preference is for 90’s alternative/grunge/etc and things directly descended from it, like Foo Fighters, Pumpkins, Peppers, Garbage. I like a broad mix of other things, but that’s still my main go-to. I just saw this
    https://www.jbhifi.com.au/music/browse/alternative-rock-pop/double-j-the-90s-the-greatest-decade-in-music/454005/
    the other day and got Marouda to pick it up on her way home from work tonight. Listening to it now. I probably own 30% of the music anyway, but there’s not much on it I’m not enjoying so far, even as a nostalgia trip of things I haven’t heard in years or more often stuff I liked at the time but never bought or heard the rest of the albums. Check that (overall) track listing!

    3) Stuff recorded on the Cable Box.
    – mostly crime documentaries, specifically Forensic Files and The FBI Files. You don’t really need to watch them and so they work very well as “radio” documentaries. Sometimes if a few of them in a row get a bit too gruesome or rapey I have to stop, though. I enjoy the procedural stuff, and since it’s all real, it holds my interest in a way that fictional shows (CSI, etc) hold no interest whatsoever for me. I save Homicide Hunter for when Marouda is home.
    – also old wrestling shows – episodes of Raw & Smackdown. Sort of half-background noise that I don’t feel obliged to really *watch* much of unless it’s a particularly good match or people I really like, but listening still gets you that narrative when needed. Works for mainline WWE programming, but not for NXT or NJPW, as those demand to be properly watched.

    Anything distracting? If I’m painting fine, precise details like eyes or tattoos or script, it’s time for any other people around people to stop what they’re doing for a couple of minutes and STFU! I’m also not shy about asking, and if I need to ask twice, manners are off the table! Otherwise, I’m pretty fine with normal life noises.

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    1. Very nice find on that 90s cd set! Looks like a couple bands I’m not familiar with, though there’s a good chance I’ve heard the songs. Yea, I love the 90s music, and was shocked to find there are people out there who really don’t. Shouldn’t be, as we all have our own musical tastes and for some of us those change over time as well.

      Don’t know if I relayed this story. My Wife, the normally quiet mouse of the house, often walks into the ‘office room’ while I’m in my own little world of painting, and comes up behind me and says “HI!”. One time I jumped, but managed to not smear paint across the mini. Lucky for her. We keep having conversations about the proper way to announce yourself when entering the office. Grumble, grumble.

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  7. I was a big fan of the Dragonlance books, it was definitely one of my early intros to fantasy (it’s like you are setting up a post Ive been writing on and off for the last few weeks!).
    In terms of music, the answer is what ever takes my fancy but it is inevitably played through an MP3 or the laptop with earphones (not anything Apple as I’m bloody anal with categorisations and have to have my own genres/folders and subfolders set up).
    Whilst I do have a real soft spot for all things punk rock with Blink 182, Greenday etc definitely up there, I’ll happily nod along to Classic tunes and 90’s music of all varieties (Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins and Metallica were large influences). But (unlike it seems for a lot of hobbyists), I’m a huge fan of dance music. I’ll happily listened to club classics on Heart FM in the evenings for some cheesier tunes or (if I’m alone in the house) dig out a load of house/hard house or d&b vinyl, crank up the volume and mash some tunes together.

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    1. Hah, wouldn’t have pegged you as a dance music person! I’m guessing that’s sort of like rave/techno music? I listen to a lot of that when programming or sometimes painting. Do you have some examples?

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      1. I did go raving when I was younger (happy hardcore, drum and base and techno was the main draw back then. A classic drum and base tune is true playaz by the Ganja crew) but also went to a lot of the festivals too as even at that age I had a diverse taste in music. I still rate the Prodigy as one of the biggest influences on the dance side for me but love basement jaxx too. On the hard house side, Lisa Lashes saw me through Uni (looking good is one of my favourite tunes by her). I’ll admit this sub genre is quite niche and if it weren’t for clubbing to it through uni I probably wouldn’t still love it so much).

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        1. Nice, I got some more stuff to check out! I’ve been happening by a local band playing in the park recently. And last time IRO brought up music, I had just remembered them and was going to ask if they had a CD (yea, I’m ancient). They weren’t around….but today they were, albeit in a different spot. Unfortunately it doesn’t look like they have an album, but I did find out their name and listened to a couple of their tracks on Soundcloud. I sure hope they do more someday. If you like jazz stuff, it’s worth a quick listen:

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  8. I actually make phone calls whilst I paint 🙂 I’ve been calling family members and catching up whilst working on my Shadespire minis 🙂 helps do due diligence to the people I call and the minis!

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    1. I don’t think I’ve ever done much talking while painting. I tend to get lost when I’m trying to figure out my color schemes. My hats off to you!

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  9. I love my music and do often listen to a variety of genres while hobbying but I also like silence. I get lost in my own thoughts and my own little world. It’s a strange place where people walk backwards and eat licorice all sorts.

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    1. Sometimes the music helps me to get into that headspace easier. Being an introvert, I feel like I’m in my own head a lot. So I also really appreciate the times when music helps me zone out and turn off that inner dialogue, and I get some “rest”. But I also enjoy the times when I calm down, and am thinking things through, and/or coming up with interesting ideas.

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        1. Kinda. I can be quiet at times, but in small group settings, talking about something I know about, I’ll go on and on. Most introverts aren’t keen on small talk, I had to teach myself how to ‘do small talk’.

          Introverts aren’t great in big gatherings, as we tend to process everything going on around us, and that’s a lot to take in. I might’ve told this story before, but often when I’m out with other people, I’ll talk to them afterwards about something that was happening 3 tables away. Yet still managed to listen to their conversation.

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            1. Gossip is another thing I’ve never really understood. Especially in the workplace. I just want to get stuff done,
              screw the politics and grandstanding.

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              1. There’s gossip and there’s gossip. Unfortunately people can be stupid and even somewhat intelligent people can have stupid ideas. There’s also too many people that know JUST enough to be dangerous because they can break things and people who have a little bit of power go to their heads and think that they “outrank” others, so you see them treat other co-workers as subordinates when it really don’t work that way.
                So occasionally you need to vent to people who know the other players and are vaguely aware of the situation. It’s just a matter of venting to a very limited number of people (like 1 or 2 at most) who you can trust.
                That, and remembering not to be a dick to people, even if you don’t particularly like them.

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                1. “That, and remembering not to be a dick to people, even if you don’t particularly like them.”. Yes, because you never know when that new person will be your boss. 😉

                  It’s also tough finding people that you can trust, because pretty much everyone is out for their own neck. It’s why the Walking Dead comic (and a lot of Apoc fiction) rings so true.

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                  1. Not super likely in my case, but yes. Besides, it’s just good form not to let a little bit of power turn you into a raging douchebag or even just a little dick. Seen that one too many times…

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          1. I think when I started singing for a band I became more extrovert because I kind of had to be I guess. Plus jobs I’ve had where I’ve had to do presentations to large groups meant I had to exude confidence. I think I am a confident person but deep down quite a shy bloke who would be quite happy living as a hermit haha.

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