Old Mini Monday 11 – Fantasy 01

Old Mini Monday 11 – Fantasy 01


While visiting my brother, he rounded up all his old painted minis and let me borrow the box of them to share on the blog.



From Left to Right: Kobold (11-421c), Kobold (11-421b), Kobold (11-421d), Orc 2 (11-409)




Ral Partha Advanced Dungeons & Dragons (AD&D) line



Being great little monster minis, the Kobolds got used over and over. Be it Dungeons & Dragons (D&D) Goblins or Kobolds, monsters in our own homebrew Dungeon Crawler, or perhaps as primitive aliens in a SciFi setting. I’m sure we got our money’s worth out of them.

Miniature wise, I love the sculpts. Especially that Orc. The Orcs have had a variety of artist’s depictions in the D&D world, but I don’t recall any looking quite like this.

1st edition Monster Manual image for “Orcs”




Had enough Orcs yet?


I’m kind of partial to the pig-faced Orcs as they were featured on the front cover of the classic Keep on the Borderlands module that we seemingly played over and over. I also keep telling myself, that if I ever win the lottery, I’m going to buy a ton of minis from Otherworld Miniatures Including this guy:


The Ral Partha Orc mini (way, way above now), and especially the set of them (below), have a bit more of a Lord of the Rings vibe to me. Not the movie, more like fantasy art (maybe Frazetta?) that I had seen around that time that was Lord of the Rings based.

Here’s a pic of them from the DnD Lead site:


Tangent – I Quit

Well, that was abrupt!

Nah, not happening! 😉

Some comments with TIM from awhile back, and specifically from his post “The News at TIM – Mid Week Musings (No: 17)” got me to thinking. Which is what happens every time I read those damned Musings of his.

TIM (aka The Imperfect Modeler) mentioned “The Future of Modeling?” and wondered what changes, perhaps technological changes, might mean for the future of the hobby. All in good spirits. But my mind sometimes goes to the dark side of things when I think of “The Future”.

Backing up a little bit, this isn’t the first time I set about to paint miniatures. If you’ve read through some of my blog, you’ve likely gleaned bits of my history. I started painting miniatures around age 12 or 13, fueled by the fever-inducing “Dungeons & Dragons” game. But I pretty much sucked at it, and gave up. Years later I would try again, and be “almost okay” at it (wait, I’m still “almost okay”, but I digress!). I quit as other hobbies came to the front, etc. Then I got into Blood Bowl, and painted slews of minis. Then I got remarried, some kids happened, but Blood Bowl came back and I have started painting again. But it does make me wonder sometimes…will I quit again?

What if the technology was there (and yes Azazel, also the price points) to mass produce suitably tabletop minis. Not Heroclix level crap-jobs, but actual tabletop quality minis. With base coats, washes, and highlights. Would you keep painting miniatures?

What other factors might make you quit painting? Lifestyle, health, and finance changes are pretty much a given, but is there anything else out there that might make you quit painting? Technology or otherwise?

That’s my thoughts for the Monday. And really don’t have anything to do with Old Minis, but you can stare at the orange Orc instead, if that’s your thing.

21 thoughts on “Old Mini Monday 11 – Fantasy 01

  1. Never done an Orc but then again before I started following a number of people through blogging, yiurself included, there were lots of models I’d never done. Could be time for an Orc at some point.

    I’d like to think the vision of table top quality miniatures would never come to fruition. Technically I’m sure it could but so many of the distributors sell the knock on goodies too like paints, scenics, etc. Strikes me they would be shooting themselves in the foot. As for giving up painting/modelling? I’d like to think not but like you I have had periods in my life when other things have dominated and sometimes to such an extent that modelling very much took a back seat. Cannot rule that out from happening again but would like to think I have more time now to keep more balls in the air including my hobbies.

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    1. Well, I for one, sure hope you keep it up! It’s always fun seeing what new thing you come up with and your paints are really nice to look at. I also think, there will likely always be people who paint. Even with prepainted minis being out there, people often strip them down and repaint them.

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  2. Without wanting to open a political discussion (always a risky business!) the Orange Ork sounds like it could be the title of a certain golfing obsessed US president…

    Anyway, moving swiftly on, if the technology was there to produce really high quality fully painted miniatures at no extra cost I’d spray them black (if I couldn’t buy them unpainted) and repaint them myself. For me the painting is the hobby, it’s what I do to relax (alongside converting, kitbashing and so on). Even if I couldn’t paint to the standard of the pre-painted models I’d be the crotchety old dude trying to anyway.

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    1. Hmm, I just might know who you are referring to…! 😉

      Yea, I think there will always be people, like yourself, who will want to do some sort of conversion and/or painting. Even if they did a better paint job than I’m capable of, I could imagine there would be some character they haven’t done, that I would want to make.

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  3. I’m pretty sure those are the Kobold models I talked about a little while ago, that I’m glad my copies of will never see the light of day. These look fantastic compared to what I did to the poor things. The paint was blobbed on so heavily that even major details like the distinction between the hands and the weapons they were holding was lost.

    Painting isn’t my favourite part of mini gaming, and I might well go along with pre-painted stuff, especially for basic Troops and the like, if the quality and price point were right. That said, converting Models is very possibly my favourite part, and I also really like coming up with my own colour schemes and such, so maybe not? I guess I’ll find out if it happens.

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    1. I bumped those little guys to the top of the queue just for you! 😉

      I really should pick up my own set someday, but every time I think that, I have to rethink about how long it takes me to paint and the number of unpainted minis I already have.

      I think I’m with you, I wouldn’t know until I see what they make. For basic units or something to “just get played”, I’d be interested if they were cheap. I don’t really need to paint 20 Skeletons or Goblins, if they are a decent level. But if I have an idea in mind, I could just as likely strip them and repaint.

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    1. Haha, that’s because you’re crazy like that! Yea, I wants. Maybe once I get Necromunda with enough playable teams and a little bit done on Blood Bowl. Then I’d be pretty happy to start some D&D stuff. Hopefully by then my painting skills would be good enough to do them some justice as well. Whomever they hired to paint those minis is pretty talented, and I’m a bit worried I’d be disappointed with the minis after my paints. 😜

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  4. If Wednesday Musings and Thursday Thoughts weren’t enough, reading Old Minis Monday on a Tuesday has fried my brain! I’m hoping to never give up painting minis badly and losing at wargames!

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  5. Otherworld’s minis are great. If you can work out an order worth 40 quid (under US$55), just buy a few of them from Firestorm games in Cardiff with free international shipping.
    My first images of Orcs were actually the same “pig-faced midgets” from one of my brother’s early D&D manuals. This led to an association with Ugnauts from Empire Strikes Back and in turn, the Gamorrean Guards from RotJ were Trolls, somewhat based on the old T&T cover art (rather than GW-style Orcs, which hadn’t strongly coalesced to that point yet).
    What might make me quit? At this point, I can only really say health issues. Even when I haven’t done much for awhile, it’s been there in the background since I was a child.

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    1. Weird, Orcs weren’t midgets though. Kobolds, yea. The Gamorrean Guards look very much like D&D Orcs in my mind, maybe a little too wide though.

      Firestorm Games, huh?! I’ll have to check that out. Otherworld also has vouchers, where you can buy one for £50, and get £65 worth of minis. Good for a year. They have two other vouchers for larger amounts too.

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      1. I’m sure i read that exact description (somewhere). “Pig-faced midgets” – It’s stuck with me for a long, long time. I don’t recall which book it was in, though. And it does fit in with the stature they’re described with in LotR
        As for Otherworld, that sounds alright – depends what the shipping comes to, I guess.

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        1. I looked up shipping last night, but my tired brain wasn’t set to do the math. Looks like both are really close. The one definite advantage is that Otherworld has more items and more boxed sets listed on their site. I might just reach out to the shop in Cardiff though and see if they can get some other items. Either way, a definite “Thanks!” to you man!

          I can’t recall them ever being described as midgets, but it certainly could have been. Here’s the beauty (at least to me) of early D&D though. They had a “Do whatever the F*** you want!” vibe. It was probably Gygax, but there was a long explanation of the game and how people should use their imaginations to build their own worlds, etc. If you want your Orcs to be Blue faced midgets minus the nose snout, it’s up to you. I loved that about the game, and probably one of the reasons why I have a habit of taking what I want from a game and changing the rest. I will often ignore whole parts, that I don’t really like. GW seems to have taken the opposite approach with their games, making a world set full of lore with very specific visions of what that is like. Though, with most games, I’m sure there are areas where exceptions can be made.

          The downside to ‘anything goes’, is that you get a lot of consistencies. I would not be surprised at all if there was some module or book that described Orcs as “pig-faced midgets”. Or if one artist had drawn them as such. Different artists had different takes on a lot of the creatures. Sometimes making things a bit confusing.


  6. The Orange was a common goblin flesh color in the 80s. I still have 2 bottles of Polly S Goblin Flesh that is that color. As for pig faced orcs, check out Minifigs for the best of that era.

    – as for technology, I enjoy creating what I like, so like IRO I’m not quitting anytime soon!

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    1. Glad to hear you’re not quitting anytime soon! 🙂

      Interesting, didn’t know that there was an orange Goblin Flesh color out there. I might have seen it before, but now I’m so used to seeing green Goblins, I can’t imagine otherwise.

      It would be interesting to paint Goblins a different color in Blood Bowl, as the Orcs are also green. Orc teams can consist of Goblins, Orcs, and Trolls. So that could be a lot of green skin. Though blue Trolls seem to be quite popular.

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